October 20, 2004
One for the "Baseball is boring" people
The Red Sox are trying to kill my father.
My dad grew up living and dying with the Red Sox, and even though he rooted for the Phillies when I was a kid and he roots for the Twins now, if you open him up and look at his heart, I'm convinced it's got that "B" on it. And every time they play the Yankees in a situation of any significance, he steels himself by telling me in advance how bad it's going to be. "The Red Sox will get killed by the Yankees," he says. Of course, he also likes, "The Twins will get killed by the Yankees." The Yankees loom large in his mind, the same way people who get thrown into lakes as children remain afraid of the bathtub.
In a way, it would have been merciful if they had just been swept. Four up, four down, forget it, and everybody gets to go home. Especially after they lost 19 to 8. NINETEEN TO EIGHT, people. Now that's just plain damn embarrassing. That series, at that point, could not end soon enough for me. Sometimes, it just hurts to look at it, you know?
I wasn't really surprised that they won a game when they were down 3-0, though. First of all, they're a better team than to get swept, and second of all, that's what the Red Sox do. They pump you up with a little hope, the better to rip out your liver with a melon baller. They always find, it seems, the most painful way to lose. The most agonizing way. The way that suggests that they may actually be trying to kill my father. I was a little surprised they won a second game. But that was the part that gave all the sports columnists the opportunity to say, "Don't be fooled -- they still don't have a chance."
I couldn't resist last night's game, even though I knew I shouldn't watch it. I am one of those people who hates the Yankees, for reasons that range from inherited (see: Dad, above) to visceral and mindless (I HATE the uniform, I HATE Derek Jeter, I HATE the fans, I HATE the word "Yankees," I HATE seeing them every goddamn year) to the relatively rational (those of us from small-market towns have every right to resent the way our measly payrolls are dwarfed in the stupidest financing system in sports) to the personally vengeful (see: Twins) to the philosophical (I really do believe having the rest of the American League effectively shut out of the World Series for almost ten years is bad for baseball, not that baseball doesn't shoot itself in the foot in a thousand other ways). I was pretty sure I would see the Yankees wrap up the series last night if I tuned in, because they really wouldn't want to let it go to a Game 7, and some part of my brain believes that the Yankees can do whatever they want to the Red Sox whenever they want to. It's inherited, like I said.
Curt Schilling logged more than eight seasons with my old team, the Phillies. He's 37 years old, and he's been in the major leagues since 1988. I'll put it this way: he's been doing it since I was in high school, and my 15-year reunion is this weekend. It's not OLD old, but . . . it's old. I always feel a sense of ownership with ex-Phillies and ex-Twins. It's not surprising that a guy who played all that time in Philadelphia wouldn't give a crap about his bleeding foot. I was just explaining to LTG last night that the Phillies are notoriously, always, unendingly a mess. Tobacco juice running down their shirts, sloppy hair, big guts . . . come to think of it, having been raised in that baseball environment is probably another reason I don't trust all those neat, perfect little clean-cut Yankees. But anyway, a guy with a bloody foot, with the pain and the oozing sock and everything would probably be the neatest and most put-together guy on the team. A guy coming out of dental surgery would still look better than John Kruk.
And damned if he didn't gut it out. Curt Schilling is a fucking stud. He pitched seven innings and gave up four hits. Yeah, one was a home run, but . . . whatever. The Red Sox didn't even have to think about pulling him until the eighth, and even then, the TV guys were bitching that it was too early.
It is fortunate that the umpires fixed the two calls that they got blatantly wrong. How would you like to have woken up this morning to find the Red Sox out of the series, having been denied the benefit of a home run they should have had? Or having been subjected to that cheap-ass bullshit Alex Rodriguez tried to pull? Dirty little cheater. I loved how he acted surprised in the paper -- not claiming he wasn't trying to slap the ball away, but surprised that he isn't allowed to slap the ball away. That was his argument. He didn't know you weren't allowed to grab at the ball and try to knock it out of the guy's glove. So that's who he is, I guess. Did Mientkiewicz (hi, Dougie! We still love you!) block the base path? I don't think he did on purpose; I think he was trying to cover the base if necessary, but he probably did get in the way. Had Rodriguez run for the bag and been called out because he didn't touch it or called out for being outside the base path, he might have a point. But that's got nothing to do with slapping at the ball, which is, and remains, bullshit.
So it's good they got that one right. And the home run call, which wasn't the Yankees' fault at all. And one other thing -- you know, TV guys, there are a lot of little kids who watch these games, even when they go late. Could you please not say there was nothing wrong with Rodriguez slapping at the ball, because otherwise, he would have been out? It's against the rules, y'all. It's not okay to violate a well-known rule and hope you don't get caught, just because it's your only way to avoid being out. Don't say it is. It isn't. It's described in the rules as "malicious" or "unsportsmanlike" to do that. Is A-Rod going to hell? Oh, of course not. Does everybody do that stuff? Hell, yes. But please don't specifically call out what a perfectly good decision that was on his part. Little League coaches are trying to teach little kids not to be cheater assholes. Please don't undermine the effort.
So now, Game 7. Which, in all likelihood, the Red Sox will lose. (See? Inherited.) There's every reason, based on history, to believe that the Red Sox will have once again found the most painful, most agonizing, most wrenching way to lose -- bringing their fans to the brink of a historic screwing of the team they hate the most, and then doing some ridiculous thing like . . . I don't even want to think about what. Fortunately, the pub quiz is tonight, and I will probably miss most of the game. It's just as well. And I think my father is busy tonight also. That's even better.
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I'm a little disappointed to learn that A-Rod isn't going to hell, but apart from that: man, you're telling me. I may not be your father, but that game (and the previous two) have killed. Me. Dead. I'm not sure I can stand tonight's game, for precisely the reasons you suggest. But of course I will watch, and I will weep like a baby should the other shoe, once again, drop.
They are trying to kill us all.
Me, especially, by playing games that, in my time zone, start at 1 and go till 5:30.
I just hope it takes several more attempts.
I've got coffee. I've got a brown paper bag to breath in and out of. I've gotten over feeling like an idiot about sitting in front of a computer screen and clapping by myself in the dead of night.
Go Sox!
At the risk of incurring wrath, "so that's who he is, [you] guess"? I think it's a bit much, even for a Yankee-hater, to suggest Alex Rodriguez is a dirty little cheater for trying anything to get past the guys who were blocking the base path. Yes, the rule is the rule and the umps went by the rules (which also put Jeter back on first, when in reality, on that tag play, had ARod not knocked it away Jeter would have been on second). However, the rules also allow for taking out middle infielders legs and crashing forearms-first into the catcher to try to disrupt things and dislodge the ball. So it's not like it's a crazy, out-of-left-field idea to try to dislodge it from Arroyo in that situation. S'all I'm sayin' there.
I'm a Yankee fan and while I totally know where Boston fans are coming from with their "We'll probably blow it tonight anyway" thinking, well, I just have to say, everything else seems to have gone out the window in this series. The Sox have tried hard to blow it and still managed to hang on. There's no way to handicap a game like tonight since it's NEVER happened before. Amazing. Never.
First of all, "That's who he is, I guess," related to his lame-ass attempts to lie -- because you know it's a lie as well as I do -- and tell everyone that he didn't know you weren't allowed to swat at the ball when you're the runner. In Little League, they know you can't try to reach out and grab the ball from the fielder when you're the runner. "I didn't know it was illegal" is bullshit. As is his other explanation that I love: "I don't know what I was trying to do." I mean . . . dude. Just say, "It's an intense game, I tried to get away with something and they caught me. It happens." That would have looked a lot better than this crap.
Nobody who plays baseball doesn't know the difference between crashing into the fielder in the act of running and reaching out with your paw to knock the ball away. There is NOBODY who doesn't know the difference. You're telling me Alex Rodriguez, who plays infield himself, doesn't know that a runner isn't allowed to try to take the ball out of his glove by hand? You're telling me that if he's covering the base and he's making the tag and the runner REACHES OUT AND TRIES TO KNOCK THE BALL AWAY WITH HIS HAND, Rodriguez will shrug and go, "Oh, well, that's not illegal. What do you mean, 'Yes, it is'?" I just think that strains credulity.
Like I said, he's not going to hell. But it's not a move that covers you in glory, and to act the shocked innocent later on doesn't make me think very highly of you.
I must admit, when I heard Conan O'Brien saying last night that the game was still going, my first thought was ... boy, I hope Dad isn't watching THAT! Thanks for the overview - go RED SOX!
IwilnotwatchIwillnotwatchIwillnotwatch.
(sigh) I'll watch. I'll watch knowing that somehow, some way, in some excruciatingly bizarre fashion, The Team That Shall Not Be Named will win.
I grew up on the Prairies just north of you, a Twinkies fan, only sharing my boundless love with the Bosox when I moved to the East Coast of Canada. Now, inundated with Bosox propaganda on a daily basis (our cable stations originate out of Boston), I'm fully inculcated.
Well, not fully. I don't believe. I hope. I pray. I hex the TTSNBN. I yell at my TV. I call A-Rod a dirty little cheater. But I don't believe.
I want to. But I know if I do, they will kill me.
And I'm with you on the TV folks not telling kids that it's OK to cheat. The same smirking, it's-OK-if-you-don't-get-caught attitude came out way back in 1991 when Kent Hrbek (buy a vowel!) wrestled Ron Gant off first base for a pick-off that preserved a Game 2 win in the World Series (over TOTTSNBN).
It was wrong then and it's still wrong, and without making baseball more than what it is, that attitude gets into society somehow, and if you let kids think it's OK to do that in baseball, well, there you go, it's the thin edge of the wedgie. And we all know how painful that can be ...
Pub quiz is tonight? Shoot, I never figure out when it is early enough to make plans to attend. My girlfriend and I are dying to test our mental mettle against the Mighty Miss Alli!
I'm a newcomer both to baseball and to the Twins, but I think I'm catching on (after all, I now own a homer hankie).
The best part of the post-season, though, has been how I've been able to use it in my test prep teaching. If I'm trying to teach the kids how to use context clues to do sentence completions, there is no better sentence than: Twins fans think the Yankees ____________. And I have yet to teach a class that hasn't shouted out "SUCK!" in unison :).
(Not that you couldn't argue the Hrbek/Gant tussle endlessly - Hrbek insisted it was legal, and maybe it was. But at the time - and this is the point here - sportscasters who judged it illegal smirked and said "Well, he got away with it, so it's OK." That, and not the call itself, was what I found objectionable. I loved the call.)
The Yankees don't suck. Assertions that they do are best backed up by fans of a team that can beat us on the field.
I, personally, have never asserted that the Yankees suck, except in jest. You can say many things about people who run over their league every damn year, but I'm not going with "suck."
Furthermore, when it comes to college basketball, I am a Duke fan, and we are the Yankee fans of the NCAA, for almost all of the same exact reasons. And I can react with nothing but a bemused smirk to "Duke sucks," no matter how many times the Fark guy says it. I mean . . . Duke bores you? Duke stole your lunch money? You hate Coach K's mouth? Those are all fine. But we don't suck.
I feel you, Sars.
Sars. Darlin'. Love you, respect you, hold you in the highest esteem ... but ... if winning or losing becomes our sole criteria for judging suckiness, society as we know it will collapse. Where will we be if we can't all agree that some winners - in baseball, in Presidential politics, in business, in reality TV, in any field of human endeavor - Still. Royally. Suck.?
Not that you should agree your winner sucks. Just saying. Some winners do.
I would be with you, Nils, if I believed that I, personally, would hate the Yankees so much if they didn't win so much.
Nobody would be obsessed with chanting that the Yankees suck -- or that Duke sucks -- if they didn't win all the time. I hate the Yankees for winning so much. I don't deny it. I feel like they're hogging what I'd rather see a little more spread around.
Presidents who win suck because they're bad presidents. Reality show winners who win can suck because they're bad human beings.
But the Yankees, to me and to most people I know who hate them, suck for winning. Or at least for dominating. What would I have against the Yankees if there were more parity in the American League? Well . . . nothing.
I hate Jeter for being Jeter, and I hate the pinstripes because they're the pinstripes and they screw teams I'm emotionally attached to. I have never heard anyone yell "Yankees suck!" who had any basis for it that was independent of how much the fuckers win.
If they stopped winning, there's nothing about them I find inherently objectionable. Perhaps it's a level of detachment that comes from, as I said, being a Duke fan, but there it is.
Yeah, OK. I hate them because they win. Damn them. But still ...
Nope. It's the winning. (sigh)
Linda: My point precisely. I've got no beef with people hating the Yankees; I can argue some of the points (Lord, deliver me from the small-market debate -- I agree it's unfair, now get off me and go tell it to Selig), but if they sucked all the time, they'd be lovable scamps. They win all the time, so they're Vader.
I hated John Tudor for having too small a mouth. I'm not better than anyone. I'm just saying, hate the Yankees for another reason, because that one won't hunt.
For the record, I don't personally think the Yankees suck, I just find the widespread belief (at least in Minneapolis) that they do to be a valuable teaching tool, at least with high school boys :).
Linda - Loved the essay. My father is a lifelong Tigers fan, and while he certainly hates the Yankees the suffering isn’t as deep as a Red Sox fan’s. Though he wasn’t exactly heartbroken when the Tigers were no longer in the East. Alex Rodriguez is not going to hell? This is not the prevailing opinion in Seattle, where we aren't allowed to wear "Yankees Suck" t-shirts, so as not to offend delicate Northwest sensibilities.
McCarver et al. basically congratulating Rodriguez for cheating was really low.
We watched the YES network wrap-up (well, flipped between that and ESPN) and a woman reporter was talking about how the Yankees were in one of their hitting slumps. My husband and I both burst out laughing; didn't they break several records for offense in 2004?
I've never liked "Yankees Suck" because they don't, but I suppose it depends on your definition of "suck." "The Yankees are the agents of east coast bias, big market dominance, stupid rules against facial hair, plus they always beat my team" just doesn't work somehow
Now, see, I'm not so much a "that team sucks" type person as I am an "I hate [Colorado Hockey Team]." Because yeah, "suck" is so vague and doesn't really get it. So saying, "I hate [CHT]" usually gets the response, "Oh, yeah, why?" To which I can then reply with the myriad of - completely justifiable - reasons and the other person then has no legitimate response except "Yeah, well, the Redwings suck." Thus, I win.
And also? Redwings are the Yankees and Dukes for the NHL.
It isn’t so much that I hate the Yankees, as I hate their attitude. It is hard to describe, and the best I can come up with is “an attitude of entitlement”. Maybe that comes from the history of the club, or all the winning, or a combination of those and other factors. I am not sure. I just like the Mets more than the Yankees. And, considering I am a Cardinals fan, that is saying something.
So, basically: the Yankees don’t suck, but I definitely don’t like them.
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September 27, 2004
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I enjoyed the Vikings game yesterday very much. And it's not every day you can honestly say you enjoyed a Vikings game. In fact, after their depressing loss against Philadelphia a week ago, I was beginning to think the entire season was going to look very, very ugly. And it still might. Especially since approximately 90 percent of everyone we have who doesn't suck is injured.
I'm still scratching my head over the Bears touchdown late in the game that, to me, involved the officials deciding on review that as long as your hand is still on top of the ball, you still have possession of the ball, even if you're not actually holding it anymore. I mean, in retrospect, it doesn't matter, but . . . that looked very weird to me. I was prepared for the call to be changed, because the announcer guy kept saying it looked like a touchdown to him, but to me, it looked like the ball, she was already lost.
At any rate, at least we didn't get crushed like bugs, which is a good thing. I have a feeling that we won't be piling up a lot of wins this year, so I'm happy to take anything I can get.
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August 16, 2004
Oh, Puerto Rico
It's very interesting that there's a schoolyard metaphor at the end of this piece.
See, I'm very nostalgic about the issue of the so-called "Dream Team," which got its ass handed to it by Puerto Rico yesterday. As it happens, my life as a writer, in its current form, dates back to my observations about the 1992 "Dream Team."
I was between my junior and senior years in college, and one of my favorite things was the Bulletin Board column in the St. Paul Pioneer Press. I read it faithfully every day, and it was reliably funny and goofy and entertaining, and I sort of thought from time to time about submitting something to it, but I didn't get around to it until that summer, when I built up a head of steam about the Olympics. I sat down and dashed off a rant about how much I hated the flag-waving and the preening, and I called it in, and it was in the paper. There used to be a teaser on the front page of the section in the upper right hand corner that gave some hint of what the BB was talking about that day, and for years, I had the teaser that said "The bullies (and boneheads) of Barcelona" tacked to my wall. I think my parents had that column on their refrigerator for about eight years, until it turned yellow and fell apart.
I don't have a copy of it anymore, unfortunately, but I remember that I talked about how the whole thing reminded me of . . . I think it was a "sweaty, brooding, pimply tenth-grader going down to the playground to beat up a little kid with the sniffles." Something like that. So I was all over the high school metaphors, too.
Anyway, I sent stuff to Bulletin Board for years -- I even called from college to report certain things, including reflections on the 1992 presidential election coverage in which Dan Rather kept saying it was a "ding-dong race" and so on; wrote extensively about my life as an office temp, including my deep and abiding hatred of office music, which resulted in my very first mad clash with obsessive fandom in the form of a bunch of pissed-off Rod Stewart fans (no, really); suggested the all-infomercial channel in which food dehydrators could go head-to-head with juicers in battles to the death; and gave my favorite ten pieces of advice for kids, in response to that really obnoxious list that runs in various places from time to time that basically says, "Screw you, your life isn't important, get used to it."
Writing for Bulletin Board begat writing movie reviews that I sent by email to a bunch of my friends, one of whom put them on his web site, which begat a site that was first called Ms. Linda's Is-It-Worth-It Movie Reviews and later Popcorn Lobby, which begat writing obsessively about pop culture in general, which begat TWoP, which begat F&D, which brings you up to date.
So as you can see, Puerto Rico whipping the United States gives me lots of very warm feelings about how neat the last twelve years have been.
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The shame of it all, is, how can these guys NOT win. They are professional basketball players playing against, for the most part, amateurs. I can understand lightning striking - but USA Basketball didn't medal in the World games two years ago and lost two pre-Olympic exhibitions.
Well, BassetHound, I think that's kind of the point. See, it's about what they're playing for. This column says it best, I think:
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf?/base/sports/1092657452101220.xml
If that link's too long, try this:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22A61019
I've often wondered how you got your start at TWOP and mixed in with the rest of the Damn Hell Ass Kings. Do those movie reviews still exist somewhere? I remember seeing one for Bring It On that convinced me to watch the movie - which I absolutely loved. Your Mean Girls review made the movie look promising as well. Anyway, long-time lurker, and just wanted to say hello.
Love you at TWoP and finally stopped by your site. Ah yes...the online movie review. I did those for awhile and my friend also posted them on his website until his fundamentalist Christian wife made him yank my last review because I dared to select the rather explicit Eyes Wide Shut. Funny!
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July 01, 2004
The Apocalypse, and Welcome To It
There is literally not one thing I could find on the sports page that would bother me more than this. I'm not joking. There is not one single thing.
June 20, 2004
The Average Joes Continue
Well, it's time for another week of Average Joe columnists, and I think this one may actually be my least favorite so far. The editors who made comments harped on his factual errors, but . . . the writing. Oh, the writing.
Each time the players association refused to relent to a cap and each time they have won.
Oy. "Relent to a cap"? And an association is an "it," and I would capitalize "players association," and it's just an ugly-ass sentence. Furthermore, his entire argument that the size of the market has nothing to do with the income of the team seems absurd to me. I'm not necessarily pro-salary-cap, but you can't blow off the size of the market like that.
On the other hand, the association between payroll and performance isn't as powerful as they're calling it anyway. It's powerful, but it's not the entire story.
The good news is that that guy's opponent, Anna, actually did a pretty good job with her entry this week, aside from the fact that she's done a little bit too much of the "on the one hand; on the other hand" alternating. Her piece isn't well-organized, but she can write English without a lot of obvious errors (aside from the painful "it/they" confusion in the first paragraph noted by the editor). It's a little overwritten in places -- I think "money-stuffed bats" isn't quite right. It's not that the bats are stuffed with money; it's that the bats were purchased with money -- at least that's what she's trying to say.
Anyway, thanks to Anna, I'm not in agonizing pain this week to quite the extent I was last week. But the other guy? Yeah. Don't give up that day job.
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June 16, 2004
Ha. Ha. Ha., Part 2
Once again, we learn that the former MEotW is a fraud. If you're really freewheeling and silly and just being an asshole for entertainment, you're still funny and cocky when your team loses. Get a load of this bit of funereal whining. All things considered, it makes me tremendously amused.
I watched quite a bit of the finals, which is surprising, considered that I haven't ever taken a huge interest in the NBA in the past. The degree to which the Lakers came unraveled as soon as things didn't go entirely their way was absolutely stunning. They got flat-out beat, and the more beat they got, the more they whined and moaned and picked up technical fouls.
It wasn't easy for me to root for the Pistons, mind you -- Rasheed Wallace still makes me grind my teeth from the days when he was with UNC. I always hated him profoundly. Perhaps the only thing that softened the blow in that regard is that I go even farther back hating Rick Fox for the same reason. But I did root for the Pistons. Because of the Timberwolves, because of Shaq, because of Kobe Bryant, because of the whining, because of the complaining, because of Jack Nicholson, and because of Simers.
The final game was very satisfying. In the second half, the Lakers were already cooked, and they acted like it. The final score with its 13-point margin doesn't at all reflect the ass-kicking that went on, because the asses kicked were kicked good and hard. It was a good game if you enjoy watching guys who specialize in strutting and bragging change their tunes and spend an hour or so fuming and sweating and tossing up bricks. Which I do.
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I was a tad disappointed with the choice of footage to air post-victory. I like to see the "get-happys" when my team wins, not ridiculously dramatic footage of Koby and Shaq walking back to the locker room. Oh well.
I think the Pistons earned this. They proved that if you have a strong TEAM, you dont need a superstar.
Amen.
The Lakers don't even care. Phil Jackson's postgame press conference was upbeat... he seemed just to be happy to be done with the season so he could get the hell out of there.
On a spiteful note, I'm glad Gary Payton got nothing... he couldn't even suppress his bad attitude for one season to get himself a ring. His bitching and moaning (not to mention his washed-up play) certainly contributed to the Lakers demise. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Haha haha haha haha, yes! I was absolutely rooting for the Piston's in deference to my beloved T-Wolves and it was incredibly satisfying to see those cocky-ass Lakers lose their shit as soon as things didn't go their way. Every one of those Lakers is about 10 times too cocky for their own good - especially you Derek Fisher, don't you hold your hand up their after you make the shot you douche! And Gary Payton and Karl Malone (my friend had tickets to Game Five of the WCF and she was really close to the court and bitching about Malone 'cause we hates him and he stopped, turned and looked straight at her, his cocky grin transforming into the most pissed off look ever, which was hilarious) HA! Take that you whiney LOSERS!!!
And I hate Rick Fox too, but irrationally, because his hair sucks and he looks like a cocky idiot and 'cause he sometimes wears a sweatband on his head and looks like a fool. The only person on the team I like is Shaq, which is only because he seems dumb but impressed me in the post-show of Game 1 of the Western Conference by doing some quick-ass division in his head that I couldn't have done. I also like Kareem Rush just 'cause he's good and not showy; he makes his shots count. Okay, now I'm ramblin', sorry!
Oh my goodness, that was so sweet. I hate the Lakers to an almost irrational degree. Shaq is the worst, but he's closely followed by snooty Phil and snooty Kobe. I was soooo glad to see them get served a steaming portion of ass. When they lose, it is like all is right with the world. I can't hate Karl Malone at all, but everyone else with the Lakers (yes, Jack Nicholson, I'm looking at you) gets a heaping helping of hate from me.
My mom always said that if your team loses, you should always cheer for the team that beat them, so if that team wins, you will know you lost to the eventual champion. Our house is a Kings house, so we were cheering for the T'wolves after the Kings were eliminated...but try as I might, I could not cheer for the Lakers for more than about, oh, 3 seconds. They are just wrong. Thank goodness they lost. And oh, how they did lose.
Oh and by the way, thanks to Zoot for noticing the excessive Lakers footage after the Pistons' win. Could ABC please have been a little more obvious about who they wanted to win? Gag.
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June 14, 2004
Ha. Ha. Ha.
Y'all, T.J. Simers has lost his sense of humor all of a sudden! What happened to that fast-talking, wisecracking jerkweed who was the Mortal Enemy of the Week? What's wrong, T.J.? I'm worried about you.
And . . . are those signs of complaining about the officiating I see? Because as we both know, that's the world's clearest sign that you have nothing.
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Lest we forget that he also made fun of the Pistons dancers. I mean, seriously, could he *get* much lower?
Omg. What an asshole! That makes the Lakers loss even more satisfying.
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May 31, 2004
Ah, Well
So we lost. As expected.
Boy, I'll tell you, you can't argue with the talent of the Lakers. You deal with the big guys, and they have scrawny little guys. You deal with the guys in the paint, and they come up with a perimeter guy. Can't argue with the talent.
That said, only in Los Angeles could a bunch of guys who are such fuckin' assholes still be able to walk out on the floor and be just as beloved as if they were actually, you know, NOT fuckin' assholes. I'll tell you this about the Timberwolves -- they showed up for every game. Even the hometown papers in L.A. knew that in both Game 2 and Game 5, the Lakers lost partly because they punked out. They played like lazy-ass millionaires who couldn't be bothered. And rather than showing any embarrassment or anything of that sort, they went in the paper and smirked about blaming it on the rain, or they blamed each other, or they basically admitted that yeah, come to think of it, next time they'd have to actually played like they cared.
Do the fans mind having their team totally punk out on them? Apparently not. Apparently, if you have such a surplus of talent that you sit on your ass and ride it just because you can, that's perfectly okay with them.
It's a bizarre phenomenon to me. Randy Moss plays half-assed for the Vikings from time to time, and I despise him for it, and he gets drubbed for it, as he should. For whatever reason, the Lakers aren't even remotely embarrassed, even when it's twice in six games, and even when it's pretty much the entire team. Nor are they embarrassed by Kobe Bryant -- who sure does have a lot to feel proud of his own self these days -- intentionally banking a free throw late in the game, just to see if he can show up a team of guys who almost beat his guys in spite of losing two of their best players to injuries for the entire series.
Is it sour grapes? Oh, hell, yes. But when I say I hate the Yankees, it's with a sort of tooth-grinding "I hate those guys" thing, like something out of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, where you hate them just because they're so good. I respect the Yankees. I hate them, but I respect them. Ditto most of the good basketball teams who beat Duke every year. But the Lakers, with the half-assed play, and the whining about whose fault it is, and the inability to accept a call against them gracefully without getting a technical? Yeah, I have zero respect for that.
It certainly isn't a parade I'd attend.
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Here's the thing, all jokes aside. We lost to a superior team. Granted, they are assholes. But they are also assholes who know that a team maybe 10% below their talent level will make prodigious runs at home but not be able to win over the course of seven games. Survive Game 5, don't get beat up, and you will win game 6. They are veterans who want rings - asshole veterans yes - but there is no arguing they know the game of basketball.
Kudos, Karl, kudos, Gary-- assholes, yes, but their skill for more than a decade merits a championship. KG's day will come, and if it doesn't that is a true shame, because he is the classiest player in the game. And despite Sprewell's past, he's not far behind.
Flip and Glen, let your point guards get healthy, add more than a paper center, and you can win three championships in the next five years.
Good run boys, good soul, good effort.
Well -- right, no argument. That's why the obligatory first paragraph. The "granted, they are assholes" part is the only point I'm trying to make. I totally agree with you. You just happen to be able to channel your energy positively, while I remain bitter and resentful.
And I also know that At Least Pretend To Be Gracious In Defeat is part of The Code, almost as much as the part about not leaving for dinner, but I hate losing to assholes. Seriously. Because then the assholes are happy and I am sad, and there is injustice in the universe, and people I hate are cheering, and my ability to be mature about it goes glug-glug-glug right down the drain. That's why I can turn away from a game like that going, "Well, they may have won, but Jennifer Love Hewitt looks rough."
But you're right, I know. And had I taken more than five minutes to reflect before I poured out my heart full of paaaaaaaaain, I probably could have come up with something that would be more Code-compliant.
I don't even like the NBA, dammit! And this is why. Because I don't need another sport to bleed over. Feh.
Nah, it wasn't a counterpoint to you at all. No Code violations. Just depressed they lost but knew it was going to be the way of things.
And, of course, the F'ing mortal enemy chimes in. It's so obviously his schtick now, it seems, can't even say it really bothers me.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers1jun01,1,1171611.column
It bothers me as bad hack writing, but yes, I suppose I'm almost beyond having it bother me as offensive in substance.
You'll have to help me pick out a new Mortal Enemy, so be thinking about it.
I nominate the Peabody Ducks, because I'm never going to get to see them.
Awwwwww.
Will too! Patience is a virtue. You have time.
You're a Dukie too? This plus your AR recaps; you are my new girlfriend (don't tell my boyfriend!).
You don't want her. She gripes a lot.
As if you have any concept of what I would be like if treated properly.
To answer the question that was asked before the interruption, no, I am not a Dukie. My Dukie-dom is inherited/borrowed from my beautiful sister, who was at Duke while was at Oberlin, the School Of Absolutely No Sports, Unless You Count Political Protesting.
As a non-Lakers loving Southern Californian, I completely agree with your comments. They're complete jerks, act like babies in and out of the media and everyone around here worships them - well, at playoff time anyway.
Even after the win last night, only Kobe could even be bothered to accept the Western Conference trophy. That's sick.
The only thing that consoles me is that the worship is conditional - the second they start losing all the 'fans' mysteriously disappear.
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That is VERY cool. Also - oddly surreal, just for the record. I've been reading your words for awhile and hearing the voice behind the words, is just a little odd.
Also - I hope your Timberwolves win.
I could have sworn I heard the faint voice of your Mom in the background, calling you to the table.
I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'M SORRY I WENT TO DINNER I AM A BAD PERSON AND THE VIKINGS LOST BECAUSE OF ME AND I AM NEVER TO BE FORGIVEN AND I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I AM BROKEN DOWN AT LAST.
Yes, it was my fault. I know The Code. I know The Code says You Cannot Abandon Spectatorship At A Crucial Moment Or Your Team Will Lose. I know The Code, I broke The Code, I admit I broke The Code, and I will do my penance.
I admit it. It was all my fault, for breaking The Code.
What is Mom making for dinner tonight?
I'm sure it's nothing that would interest you, as it will probably not contain alcohol, grease, or MY TEARS.
Well, right here, in my hand. Jealous?
You need to audioblog after a night of heavy drinking. You know, rather than before.
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Odds and Ends
Not to turn this entire thing into TimberwolvesBlog, but I have a new complaint.
I need writers to stop telling me how bad the odds are of the T-Wolves pulling out the victory tonight in Game 6, based on how unusual it is to come back from 3-1, where we were the other night and no longer are. That statistic is now irrelevant.
We already won Game 5. We don't have to win it again, stupid ESPN. We don't have to win Game 5 again. We already won it.
The statistic that matters now is how many teams have come back from 3-2. Not 3-1, but 3-2. Those crappy odds about seven teams out of however many came back from 3-1 . . . I don't care. We have already beaten a portion of those odds, just by winning Game 5. As a matter of fact, 3-2 is as close as a series can possibly be after five games, in case nobody has noticed. Yes, we'll probably lose, but not because we got down 3-1. We're underdogs because we're going to be out of town, and the Lakers have a freakishly giant dude who's hard to defend, and two of our awesome guards are completely sidelined.
Stop telling me about the 3-1 odds, people. That era is over.
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Yes, I agree. Their chances have much more to do with your dinner plans than any historical statistics.
A date. Just give me a date for when my torment is scheduled to conclude, and at least I will have something to look forward to.
I'd say we could discuss it over dinner sometime, but I doubt you'd be available.
Oh, *I'm* not available. Yes, that's the problem exactly.
Besides, dinner with you? I said I was looking for my torment to end, not start.
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May 30, 2004
More from the Mortal Enemy
It's great how Simers, supposedly the King of Confrontational, has nothing to say the day after he's wrong again. So tired, this kind of thing. If he were as much of a hilarious in-your-face bad-ass as he thinks he is, he'd find a way to face it head-on, rather than ignoring the games his team doesn't win. He's worse than an asshole, in retrospect -- he's a big baby.
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He does make some dinky little note about Minnesota fighting so hard to win because it's a chance to go visit L.A.
Yeah. That's it.
Considering how you're dying to get back.
Let the record show I made a simple comment, only to be attacked.
That was not an attack! I was agreeing with you, you big paranoid weirdo.
And now she keeps on pressing the attack. God, just let it go.
You're just mad because I render you helpless. I'm like the crane kick in The Karate Kid. "If done right, no can defend!"
The crane kick got the smackdown in the sequel, kind of like you get in every one of our debates.
This is my turf. I have you here, don't I? I don't see you starting PoolBoyBlog and making me come to you. Blogger will give you one for free. What's that I hear? CLUCKING? Yeah, thought so. I own the stadium, therefore, I am the de facto winner.
I'm just sitting here with my feet up, watching you shadowboxing against yourself. Which isn't to say I don't enjoy it.
Shadowboxing is a good term, given the general weight and substance of your counterarguments.
Exactly. In other words, "CLUCK."
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May 24, 2004
Now That's More Like It
To anyone who read the ridiculous onslaught of attacking comments (sniffle) that took place following the previous Timberwolves entry, I just have one story for you.
The Lakers made ONE run last night. And would you like to know when they made it?
Oh, yeah. They made it when Pool Boy left his TV to go get himself a damn Jack and Coke. And will you be hearing about it from me for the next six months, or am I too mature for that?
I think we all know the answer.
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Well, at least it wasn't a pina colada. heh.
Go Timberwolves!
Or a pousse-caffe--those things take forever. Go Linda! Go Wolves!
God you are so full of misinformation. How many times do I have to go back to prior text to prove you wrong? Knowing that you save text messages, I dare you to copy the portion where I went to get my jack and coke... I seem to remember you getting up for a beer at the same time.
And by the way? Even if it was my jack and coke that resulted in a Lakers run, two points: (A) it was at a non-crucial point in the game and did not impede a Minnesota victory (much less ruin an entire season), and (B) I made the choice to go get it of my own volition (given that I'm in my thirties), and not because I feared a talking to from my mother.
I went INTO THE KITCHEN and came BACK. You left for like half an hour to go and GET your drink, delayed no doubt by the NEED to SCHMOOZE the WAIT STAFF, if you KNOW what I mean and I THINK that you DO.
And I was not afraid of getting a talking-to from my mother. I've told you a million times that I was at my sister's house, not that you ever listen.
Given that I don't have a kitchen in my, ahem, HOTEL ROOM, yes I did leave to go get my drink. There was no schmoozing the wait staff. I don't need to schmooze.
And yes, I know it was your sister's house, and apparently there exists no apparatus in front of the television upon which a plate or silverware might rest.
You are grouchy because the wait staff is a sorry substitute for the pleasure of my enchanting company.
Well now that's the first thing you've said with which I completely agree.
Given that I've read a lot of Pool Boy's comments, I'd say it's a given that he likes to use the word "given" quite a bit, given that he's said "given that" to start his post more times than I can count.
:-)
J Money, why are you given me grief?
Oops. Damn.
Can I just say.....
.....BWAH!
I love the new additon of "insane comment banter" to this blog - its cracking me up. This is the world I live in being married to a man who roots for the rivals to the teams I root for. Bastard.
AB + Linda + Latrell = LOVE 4 EVER. Go TWolves!
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May 20, 2004
Happy Birthday, KG
The Timberwolves almost killed me last night. No, really. They were trying to kill me.
You know, one of the really cool things that occasionally happens when you watch sports is that from time to time, you get to see a performance where a guy wants to win a game so badly that you get the feeling that there just isn't anything the other team can do about him. I mean, despite the fact that the game would have gone to OT if Chris Webber (Call a time-out, Chris! Call a time-out! Heeee hee hee, I still hate him) had gotten that three-point shot to fall, it still seemed like Kevin Garnett was the Man of Destiny.
My post-game text message to Pool Boy said, "That game just about killed me dead." He called right after that, and we had the whole conversation of, "Kevin Garnett was -- " "I KNOW!" "And Sam Cassell and his damn creaky hips and -- " "I KNOW!" "And Madsen's big fat baby hands -- " "I KNOW!"
Heh. It was one to get the fans riled. All's well that ends well. I'm sure my pulse will return to normal at some point.
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Heh, I've had that conversation with my sister about the Florida Marlins. Except with Dontrell and (last year) Pudge and Luis.
I don't see a lot of Timberwolves games, so until now, I didn't get the KG hype. OK, get it now. I think the only reason the other TW's were on the court was to botch things to allow for even more KG heroics. An amazing end to a great series.
Damn shame that Lakers are going to take them out in 6. And I mean that, as a big Spreewell fan.
Thank god there was no ceremoniously scheduled family dinner, or we most certainly would have lost.
Yes, yes, you're very funny. Your joke is only about three hundred years old, so it's good to make sure you keep returning to flog it again and again.
Actually my joke is only a half year old, given that it dates to the moment when your abandonment murdered the Vikings season and crushed the hopes of a state full of fans.
p.s. the Timberwolves game starts at 7:30 tonight. ORDER IN.
Broadway Pizza, 2135 Cliff Rd. 651-683-9989, Eagan, Minnesota.
These people are going to start to think you're kind of a punk if you keep pickin' on me, you know.
Don't worry about ordering in. Red McCombs and Glen Taylor just called and told me to tell you that going forward they are providing meal service on gamedays. Expect the catering van right around tip-off.
At least I have remained loyal to my hometown and have not fled the climate like a scared little girl.
Oh that will haunt me as I sip a poolside pina colada next February. Remember, let the car run a few minutes-- the engine heat makes it easier to scrape the ice off the windshield.
Yeah. I've seen you doing the pina colada thing. Certainly a MAJOR stud moment.
I like pina coladas (and getting caught in the rain).
You have been ruined by too much sun. RUINED, I tell you. The mere fact that you would admit to a fondness for pina coladas? No one will ever let you into an ice fishing house again, you coast-ified freak.
You have no authority to be indignant on behalf of the Vikings or the Timberwolves. You are banished.
Good. Considering that it's Sunday, I'm happy to be banished, given that at my current location I can at least go and purchase the makings for my pina coladas. I would say that the windchill has addled your mind, but I think that would imply there was something to diminish in the first place. By the way, hometown advocat, where is it in the frolicanddetour archives that you were bawling about the weather and your windshield wipers or something?
I don't believe there was any bawling, smarty-pants. I believe there was observation only. I dealt with it, didn't I? DIDN'T I?
Shall I quote, hometown girl?
"7:36: Scrape side windows, covered with surprisingly stubborn clumps of ice, in turn covered with blobs of snow. Note stupidity of weather. Swear. Mutter to self. Thinka bout moving to Florida Decide California would be better."
Ahem.
It was 7:36 in the morning. I was in a weakened condition.
You are more than welcome to join me by the pool for a pina colada (just not during a Vikings or Timberwolves game).
Who'd have drinks with the likes of you?
Wow, I make a peace offering in order to make up for so brutally humbling you by pointing out the faillings and self-proven inconsistencies in your points, and you snub it?
Geez, next time I'll just gloat.
Just because a girl turns you down for a drink, that doesn't mean you have to get all nasty. If you'd stayed in the Midwest, you would know better.
Oh, feh, I'm not nasty. Just right.
Last word. Mine. Right now. Any further post by you will be a silly attempt to back out of your earlier defeat.
But I expect one nonetheless.
You're right; you can have the last word.
Do I want to make out more with Linda, or with Poolboy?
Decisions, decisions...
« close it
April 27, 2004
It's Not That I Hate The Yankees
Okay, it's a little bit that I hate the Yankees. But really, any time it appears that no matter how much money you spend, it is still possible to suck rocks, I am happy. This won't last -- the Yankees have far too much talent to stink in the long run the way they stink right now, but considering that my father lived and died by the Red Sox as a kid, I can't help feeling some tiny sense of satisfaction.
I was babysitting on the night of . . . you know, Buckner. I was fifteen, and even after the parents got home, I sat on the couch and watched the game with them, because I was afraid to go home lest the game fall apart and my father go into mad frantic fits. And then . . . you know, Buckner. And then I really, really, really didn't want to go home, lest I catch him in the middle of the crying jag I was afraid was inevitable.
It's certainly providing good material for the guys at the Hardball Times. Nothing like a Red Sox guy and a Yankees guy ripping each other's heads off. Hey, it's all in good fun.
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I'm a little disappointed to learn that A-Rod isn't going to hell, but apart from that: man, you're telling me. I may not be your father, but that game (and the previous two) have killed. Me. Dead. I'm not sure I can stand tonight's game, for precisely the reasons you suggest. But of course I will watch, and I will weep like a baby should the other shoe, once again, drop.