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July 28, 2003
Wendy hates me. She has a point, of course, as she usually does. Nevertheless, I am unlikely to rename either Snowmobile Boy (too late now) or Pool Boy (too appropriate). Besides, "Pool Man" would make me think of Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor. What to do, what to do. I wonder if it matters that neither of them is a boyfriend type. Or that I'm technically mocking them. Or that I don't even know what a "pony party" is. Probably not. Posted by Alison-Jane at July 28, 2003 08:56 AMComments
I dunno. I used to/sometimes still do refer to the significant other as "The Boy," but that's mainly because I'm not all that thrilled with all the other terminology used to describe one's uh, romantic whatever. Pool Boy, whatever, just sounds amusing to me. And I've heard/seen a few guys refer to The Girl just as much as The Boy, these days. Posted by: Jennifer on July 28, 2003 12:31 PMYeah, I too use "boy" as in, "the boy and I did this," just because lots of people don't know his name. However, I also say "boys are dumb" or whatever, so I DO refer to them in the plural. I personally am a lot more irked by "girls" than she is, though... Posted by: Amy on July 28, 2003 03:07 PMI always assumed that the entire point of saying "boy" or "boys" was to subvert the widespread and demeaning use of "girl" and "girls." You know, an enlightened strategy to put us all back on even footing via universal infantalization. Posted by: Sarah on July 28, 2003 04:24 PMSeems to me that if it's okay to use "girl" because it's everywhere (as she states), then the best thing we could do is to increase the use of "boy" until it's viewed as exactly the same thing. Is she honestly saying we should stop doing it just because it hasn't achieved cultural totality yet? Who does she think we are, a bunch of quitters? (just kidding, sort of) Posted by: Kimmy on July 28, 2003 04:28 PMSee, I guess what's always baffled me is the choice of "boy" over "guy." I was trying to call "boy" out because I've hardly ever heard it used in a context that isn't, well, "schmoopy" in some way. And I just hate schmoop. But I can see you're not guilty of that, so you can come to my pony party. Posted by: Wendy on July 28, 2003 06:37 PMHey, I totally leave open the possibility that I'm just a huge dink. I am a reformed user of all-lowercase typing, so . . . you do the math. Posted by: Alli on July 28, 2003 07:54 PMSorry, I enjoy her writing, but I think she's dead wrong on this. I mean, I went through my feminist training in the 70s (and was better for it, I hasten to add), and subsequently would never use "girl" for anyone older than 14. Older than that, and it felt like the most revolting obscenity. So now in the last 15 years it's come back stronger than ever before, and I righteously resisted for the longest time, but... finally had to give in. But if I do, I will damn well say "boy" an equal amount. ("Guy" won't do it; we don't have a true female equivalent to that in English, which is where the overuse of "girl" came from in the first place.) And yes, as a college professor, I do have to think about this quite a lot in my dealings with students. Posted by: Rinaldo on July 29, 2003 01:37 PMI think the female equivalent of guy is "gal." And nobody likes "gal." That felt outdated in 1940. Posted by: Jennifer on July 29, 2003 02:40 PMI think sometimes it's a regional thing too. I grew up in the South, and there 'boy' applied to certain members of the population had connotations that it (thankfully) doesn't seem to now. However, it was drummed into me that this was not a term to apply to men of voting age. Posted by: Claudia on July 30, 2003 10:27 AMPost a comment
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